in reply to Re: New Display Types
in thread New Display Types

I disagree. The "print" format is a nice format for viewing in the browser.

The only thing that's missing is the ability to jump straight to "print" format from the "Newest Nodes" page. (Oh, and "print" format when posting/previewing would be nice too.)

Abigail

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(wil) Re: Re: New Display Types
by wil (Priest) on Jul 12, 2002 at 14:21 UTC
    I disagree. Making the print interface of perlmonks too accessible and usable would mean a few users would use that instead of the main interface and thus perlmonks will loose out on advertising revenues (not good), and a few community-building features such as the chatterbox.

    If you prefer to browse perlmonks with a similar interface to print, then there's a setting in your user settings to turn off all nodelets, which might help.

    - wil
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      Yes, but that would turn off all the nodelets everywhere but the frontpage. That would be fine with me, except that the chatterbox nodelet is used to signal that someone replied to your node.

      Now, I could just ignore whatever is replied to my posts, but that wouldn't be very friendly. If there's a way to be notified one of your posts was replied to without have to use a nodelet, I would certainly like to know.

      Abigail

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        That's a fair enough point. The only way I can think of would be to check your message inbox on a regular basis.

        Coming back to my original point, however, I wouldn't like to see advertisements appearing on the printed version of pages, and I am concerned that if we make alternative interfaces too appealing to users then we are risking shooting ourselves in the foot by loosing out on ad revenues and referrals to Pair (if applicable). Not to mention the disruption to the whole idea of a community ...

        This is exactly why I refrained from making a post asking for &displaytype=print to be appended onto the end of all links in the print display so that people could not navigate around through the print interface.

        - wil
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Re: Re: New Display Types
by Juerd (Abbot) on Jul 12, 2002 at 14:14 UTC

    The "print" format is a nice format for viewing in the browser. ... (Oh, and "print" format when posting/previewing would be nice too.)

    You *could* of course just adjust the default layout if you like it better when it's clean: 

    TABLE[width="100%"][cellpadding="0"],    /* top bar */
TD[width="20%"],                         /* nodelets */
TD[valign="middle"][align="right"],      /* navigation */
#footer                                  /* footer */
{ display: none; }

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      Changing the layout doesn't remove things. ;-) I don't mind losing the advertisement, or the nodelets when viewing posts. But I like being notified about followups at some place, so removing the nodelets everywhere isn't an option for me (and I don't tend to visit the front page, the only page for which you can get a different set of nodelets).

      As for the CSS, neither the FAQ nor the user settings page provides a link with useful information (e.g. the structure of the page), and I don't feel like reverse engineering.

      Abigail

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        Changing the layout doesn't remove things.

        What exactly do you think display: none; does? :)

        I don't mind losing the advertisement, or the nodelets when viewing posts. But I like being notified about followups at some place, so removing the nodelets everywhere isn't an option for me

        .oO( External server side script that outputs CSS based on the referer )
        But it would be nice if someone added lots of id and class attributes...

        As for the CSS, neither the FAQ nor the user settings page provides a link with useful information (e.g. the structure of the page),

        ...and documented it.

        and I don't feel like reverse engineering.

        It's just a quick look at the source code. Regexes are harder. 

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