in reply to Re: Re: Re: PAUSE Logo! What is that?!
in thread PAUSE Logo! What is that?!

I think "completely the wrong thing" is a little bit strong. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate someone with a deeper knowledge of music correcting a misconception. However the difference between a pause and a rest is a technical one - most people would know what you meant if you used the wrong one (kind of like the URI versus URL argument that some people care about). In fact this site (which claims to be a music dictionary) equates 'pausa' with 'rest' - I'm not suggesting it's a definitive resource merely illustrating that it may be a widespread misconception.

Beauty is of course in the eye of the beholder. To my eye, the current (but apparently technically incorrect) PAUSE logo fits well with utilitarian and pragmatic solutions common in the Perl world. I wonder if your proposed logo might not end up loast in the plethora of swoosh logos already littering the web.

PS: The fact that I've posted twice in this thread, shouldn't be taken to mean that I actually care about any of this :-)

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Re: Re*4 PAUSE Logo! What is that?!
by benn (Vicar) on Mar 18, 2003 at 12:02 UTC
    Damn! I soooo didn't want to get drawn into this...I'm beginning to sound like RMS ("It's a GNU-Pause, dammit" <g>) Anyway....

    It's confuses matters more if you start looking at the Italian, I grant you. 'Pausa' is the Italian for a rest - 'Fermata' is the Italian for a pause, or 'hold'. (I won't even bother going into German scores...) There's a bit more difference than between URI/URL - it's more like the difference between HTTP and HTML (they're both abbrevs that start with an 'H' and refer to Internetty-things, but we get annoyed when PHB's confuse them, cos they're completely different concepts).
    A pause is a 'protocol' instruction to temporarily step outside the timeframe of the piece and just 'hold everything' for a while (say, like a handshake or error correction,where no actual 'user' data is transmitted) whereas a rest is like a whitespace character - the absence of a note at that particular 'time-position'. (This is the reason that rests are written *on* the stave, while pauses are written *above*). Whereas notes and rests are mutually exclusive, a pause can apply to both. So, I'm really really sorry, but a rest symbol is, I'm afraid, "completely the wrong thing".

    Have to admit though, I do agree though about the logo itself being swooshed out of existence...not being a graphic designer, I can't see an immediate way out of that one - ("I'm a bloke - we know the 16 CGA system colours and that's it..."), but I like a bit of elegance with my utilitarian pragmnatism :)

    I suppose I'll just learn to live with it, but it'll annoy me to the rest of my days. Then again, I'm the kind of pedant that wipes off superfluou's apostrophe's from chalkboard's, so I'll just add this one to my list :)

    PS. Thanks for the distraction :) If anybody wants to post anything about apostrophes...........
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