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in thread detecting $& usage

If they are highly educated, why not just say "if you use $&, the program slows down heavily", and let the highly educated engineers decide whether it matters or not.
In my mind, I picture this scenario: ...
I think they company would benefit much more from getting a decent testing procedure than to focus on one particular issue that might cause a slow down.

Your situation is best described as "penny-wise, pound foolish". Except that the pounds are worth lots of dollars.

Abigail

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Re: Re: detecting $& usage
by MidLifeXis (Monsignor) on Jan 27, 2004 at 18:01 UTC

    Have you ever tried to teach an engineer? They just want to use what will get their job done. Some are even vehemently against some techie telling them not to do something.

    Usually, they are pretty good, but there are some that just don't think they need to change.

    --MidLifeXis

      Have you ever tried to teach an engineer?
      I am an engineer. Highly educated as well. And yes, I have trained all kinds of tech people, including engineers.

      Abigail

        MidLifeXis wrote:

        Have you ever tried to teach an engineer? They just want to use what will get their job done. Some are even vehemently against some techie telling them not to do something. Usually, they are pretty good, but there are some that just don't think they need to change.

        Abigail-II wrote:

        I am an engineer. Highly educated as well. And yes, I have trained all kinds of tech people, including engineers.

        Abigail, I hear what you're saying, and I agree with it in general, but I don't think your answer fits the question asked.

        The question was more about difficult engineers, especially when some "software weenie" beneath their station tells them why it's the engineer's fault the script takes forever. Besides the explicit technical question, there's the implicitly political one about dealing with unfun induhviduals. [I didn't notice if anyone responded about legacy code, blaming a 3rd party, and trying to repair the damage.]

        To me, the OP's question, and MidLifeXis's response, seem to be asking:

        In those situations where folks in the OP's situation can't tell the engineer to smarten up without earning significant repurcussions, "How do I make my script run faster today?"
        There have been some useful answers about specifics, and you and others have weighed in about the foolishness of getting into that position in the first place. I hope we can all avoid the level where the entire discussion brings to mind quips about The Helicopter Pilot in a Seattle Fog.

        So, to redirect the question...

        How should the OP respond to the offending individual and others like him in this case?

        -QM
        --
        Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of

Re: Re: detecting $& usage
by sleepingsquirrel (Chaplain) on Jan 27, 2004 at 21:51 UTC
    If they are highly educated, why not just say "if you use $&, the program slows down heavily", and let the highly educated engineers decide whether it matters or not.
    Exactly how is that different from what the original poster wanted?
    Anyone know how I can detect the use of $', $& or $' ? Using these variables kills the performance of our application and I want to generate a warning
    Better yet, it will help out future users, even though they didn't get your original memo ;-)
      Exactly how is that different from what the original poster wanted?
      It differs so much, they have hardly anything in common. What I suggest is telling people "it's safer to drive with the seatbelts on", while the OP wants camera's installed at the highway that detect whether or not people are wearing safety belts or not.

      Abigail