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The language is evolving. But you still need to deal with classes and types. That turns off people who want to not write business oriented stuff, but algorithms, i.e. matrix transforms.

Play that funky music white boy..
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by flyingmoose (Priest) on Feb 05, 2004 at 19:26 UTC
    Bingo! I took tons of math/science/engineering classes, I like art & music, I like strategy and planning. But odds down, I want to be creative and I want to crunch bits and make things happen. I want to entire machine at my disposal, efficient, fast, powerful, no limits.

    For those "business" (meaning mindset not just business apps) type coders, java probably does make sense. Everything has a file, everything in it's place, rigid regulation, can't do anything if someone said it wasn't ok to do that. Doing something creative (like breaking way into new algorithms) is dangerous -- you should just use the tools available or have someone write a tool. Discipline enforced from day one, not self-checked. It's just like Corporate America.

    I think the fundamentals here (and some folks can bridge the two decently), is that the tools are written for two different brain types. Which is probably why I am replying to this thread so much. Anyhow, I need to stop :)