Re: Re: Re: Avoiding "brain drain" in the corporate realm

Yeah too much "Grateful Dead" Truckin' can lead to brain damage instead of brain drain ;-).

I need to convince myself to enjoy politics more since that is what I have here :)

Noooooooooo!!!!!!! Don't do it,.. don't give in to the dark side! Company politics are evil. It is one of the major reasons why I quit my last ad-agency job (and vowed to never go back). Politics will draw you down into the muk in a heartbeat (I am sure you know this already). It is excedingly hard to keep above them, but I highly recommend to try. My current company is too small to be political (and we are all long time friends too), but it did take me a while to break out of that mindset. Best to keep above it if you can, rather then get into it, in the end people will actually respect you more (at least the ones that count that is).

-stvn

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Avoiding "brain drain" in the corporate realm by flyingmoose (Priest) on Feb 24, 2004 at 16:48 UTC
All true, I meant enjoying the corporate/management type stuff more. I despisebackstabbing and hostility... the importance is staying tactful and doing "your job", which is a little hard when different people think "your job" is too many different things. That, and I need to start making (as previously mentioned) cooler wooden chairs :) A few random quotes come on my mind. "Tact is telling some one to go to Hell and making them want to go" -- (not sure who) "I don't need so much to remember, that's how it is when you tell the truth" -- Van Halen.	[reply]
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Avoiding "brain drain" in the corporate realm by stvn (Monsignor) on Feb 24, 2004 at 18:19 UTC
All true, I meant enjoying the corporate/management type stuff more If you actually do enjoy it, then go for it. The world needs as many intelligent and tech-savy managers as it can get. But you may find that 15-20% will be even less the deeper you get into the world of management. Now I am not just "management" bashing here, I spent quite a while being "management" and still have to act like it sometimes too. But personally, I love to code, and I have actually taken pay cuts to make sure that I get to do more coding and rather than managing, because truthfully I don't enjoy it. Sure it might cap my salary to do that, but I am a much happier person :) Disclaimer: Of course I dont recommend getting yourself "demoted" and truth be told that was not too long after 9/11 at a job in Lower Manhatten, so I was certainly somewhat "emotionally clouded". But hey, I decided I would rather be happy then rich, and so far its worked out. I'll take your Van Halen and see you one Ramones ... "Tweny, Tweny, Tweny Four hours tah go-uh-oh, I wanna be sedated!" - Joey Ramone And one Run DMC ... "I'm the King Of Rock, there is nuttin higher! Sucka MCs should call me sire! To burn my kingdom you must use fire! I won't stop rockin till i retire!" - Darryl McDaniels -stvn	[reply]
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Avoiding "brain drain" in the corporate realm by flyingmoose (Priest) on Feb 24, 2004 at 21:01 UTC
I'm with you on the pay cut deal. I'd take $5k less to have more fun. If only I could find a job that would have me :) Not a big fan of Dire Straits, but I want to "that ain't workin', that's the way you do it" eventually.	[reply]
Re: Avoiding "brain drain" in the corporate realm by jonadab (Parson) on Feb 25, 2004 at 03:37 UTC
Politics will draw you down into the muk in a heartbeat Depends on how you interact with them. If you're playing the politics to win allies and influence policy, you're in trouble, of course, but if you're playing around with politics, to learn stuff about how they work, to analyze the psychology of them, and to make observations and formulate models of human behavior, then it's possible to stay detached. `;$;=sub{$/};@;=map{my($a,$b)=($_,$;);$;=sub{$a.$b->()}}` `split//,".rekcah lreP rehtona tsuJ";$\=$;[-1]->();print`	[reply]