Well, as a cgi, I was thinking maybe use another cgi to start it using sytem calls, then return html code for a page saying it had been started right.. on error deleting the file or outputing the error codes through redirection of the ERR handle or some such.. mabey on die starting itself again; I still have allot to learn, But at least I admit my lack of perl wisdom and seek to learn more - Thank you for the links to the pm's, there were unknown to me and will provide a interesting study ;)