INS, DEL, Q tags now allowed in posts

There has been some discussion about approving new tags in both the cb and the thread Proposal: Adding to Approved HTML Tags. The most important of these tags were INS, DEL, and Q.

Finally this has been brought to a decision: demerphq has added these three tags to Perl Monks Approved HTML tags.

The decision about the less important (imo) tags (ABBR ACRONYM CITE DFN KBD SAMP VAR etc) is still pending.

The only problem with this is that there are some nodes that contain <del> unquoted (meaning for example the delete button), and those now have to edited: <del> must either be html-escaped as <del> or put in code tags. Two such nodes have already been corrected, but there might be some others.

Update: I've forgot this, but Q is also allowed in the cb.

Edit by tye: Note that the Q tag is no longer allowed in nodes or chatter (see replies for more info).

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Re: INS, DEL, Q tags now allowed in posts by diotalevi (Canon) on Aug 10, 2004 at 13:33 UTC
What are they good for? Is <del> the "semantic" counterpart to <strike>? What do the others map to?	[reply]
Re^2: INS, DEL, Q tags now allowed in posts by ambrus (Abbot) on Aug 10, 2004 at 13:45 UTC
What are they good for? Is <del> the "semantic" counterpart to <strike>? What do the others map to? Yes. INS is to U as DEL is to STRIKE. They are useful when you update a node. Q is a tag to produce quotation-marks in a "semantic" fashion, but it's poorly supported by the browsers. See this HTML specification for more details. Here's the section about Q.	[reply]
Re: Re: Re: INS, DEL, Q tags now allowed in posts by diotalevi (Canon) on Aug 10, 2004 at 13:50 UTC
If the browsers don't really support Q wouldn't that mean that we'd prefer people here to continue to use <blockquote>? It isn't as if our use of Q is going to cause browsers support to improve. So shouldn't Q be taken off that list? I would assume that'd mean we'd prefer people not use it since it doesn't really work. What is the browser support-state for INS and DEL? I assume they are as well supported as STRIKE, right? If not, why are we introducing them?	[reply]
Re^4: INS, DEL, Q tags now allowed in posts by ambrus (Abbot) on Aug 10, 2004 at 14:03 UTC
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: INS, DEL, Q tags now allowed in posts by diotalevi (Canon) on Aug 10, 2004 at 14:05 UTC
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Re^5: INS, DEL, Q tags now allowed in posts by hardburn (Abbot) on Aug 10, 2004 at 14:42 UTC
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Re^2: INS, DEL, Q tags now allowed in posts by demerphq (Chancellor) on Aug 10, 2004 at 16:55 UTC
The best thing is that I can spell my name with three q's now: demerph<q>q</q>. I've always wanted to be able to do that. :-p --- demerphq _{First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Gandhi}	[reply]
Re: INS, DEL, Q tags now allowed in posts by CountZero (Bishop) on Aug 11, 2004 at 10:16 UTC
Cool! Now shouldn't the standard CSS be amended too? Just so we see a difference between INSERTED and UNDERLINED, ~~DELETED~~ and ~~STRIKEN~~ text? May I humbly suggest perhaps a (lightly) colored background for the `<INS>` and `<DEL>` text? Yes I know I can have my very own CSS, I was just wondering if the standard CSS should acknowledge the new approved tags. Update: fixed a typo. CountZero <q>If you have four groups working on a compiler, you'll get a 4-pass compiler.</q> - Conway's Law	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^2: INS, DEL, Q tags now allowed in posts (green/red?) by tye (Sage) on Aug 11, 2004 at 15:46 UTC
We use green for inserts and red for deletes when displaying patches and edits (but using different tags and CSS because INS and DEL weren't available). We might want to merge this so we just use INS and DEL and the standard CSS provides the color. Or perhaps that would be too bright, bold, glaring, or whatever. Likely the precise shades should vary by theme (at least for the dark theme). - tye	[reply]
Re: INS, DEL, Q tags now allowed in posts (Q tags dropped!) by demerphq (Chancellor) on Aug 11, 2004 at 14:27 UTC
It seems that the 'q' tags have proved to be too controversial and insufficiently supported to be allowed. So I've just set them to be unapproved on PM so they arent legal anymore. Sorry about that. --- demerphq _{First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Gandhi}	[reply]
Re^2: INS, DEL, Q tags now allowed in posts (Q tags dropped!) by eric256 (Parson) on Aug 12, 2004 at 17:57 UTC
Perhaps a note about that should be in the OP, I read the whole thing and started cursing FireFox for not working untill i got clear down here. BTW I vote for q tags, why should IE run the world? Just my 2 cents! ___________ Eric Hodges	[reply]