Re: Why can't mod_perl+Mason just work?

I'm ignoring your problems on Win32, because I don't know enough about it.

Fedora comes with Apache 2 and even mod_perl pre-installed. However, HTML::Mason won't work with Apache2 and neither will Apache::Template, the closest alternative.

One thing to note, is that mod_perl for Apache2 is still beta. I don't know why FC doesn't come with Apache 1.3 anyway, because on linux, the advantages of Apache 2 (threads) are hardly worth the upgrade, IMO. At the very least it should offer both apache 2 and apache 1.3.

Anyway, in the past I've had enough trouble with the standard (pre - 2.0) mod_perl rpms from RedHat that I always build my own binaries there.

Re-installing Apache to get 1.3 is non-trivial for me and in any case doesn't address the real issue: the Perl web development community, rather than just doing their own thing (mod_perl, Mason, Template::Toolkit), need to seriously address usability.

What usability are you talking about? You haven't installed anything yet. I run debian, and doing apt-get install apache-perl will install a nice apache 1.3 binary with mod_perl, which just works (tm).

Running perl -MCPAN -e'install Apache::Request' also works automatically.

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Re^2: Why can't mod_perl+Mason just work? by gunzip (Pilgrim) on Aug 12, 2004 at 14:29 UTC
Whilst I'm sure that there are various work-arounds my lament is that the Apache Perl community can't come up with a package/bundle which has been tested on, say WinXP and RH Linux, and which comes with Apache,mod_perl,Mason and TT2 without the nonesense of hunting down mod_perl and libpreq separately with all the potential version headaches. It would then be trivial for new students to get some work done as is the case with PHP. Perl would then have a chance of gaining back some of the mindshare. Who knows, we might even see a few more authors writing about Perl web development.	[reply]
Re^3: Why can't mod_perl+Mason just work? by Joost (Canon) on Aug 12, 2004 at 14:44 UTC
If Redhat decides to only bundle an unstable and unsupported version of mod_perl, than that's primarily their fault, but hardly insurmountable, as Apache should be build by hand for any serious application anyway. You might consider another linux distribution. As for windows, you appear to have missed the pre-build packages. "What should it profit a man, if he should win a flame war, yet lose his cool?"	[reply]