in reply to Re: Should we have more Perl "style" related Polls?
in thread Should we have more Perl "style" related Polls?

Perhaps if you had submitted even a *single* poll, I might take your whining about wanting better polls to heart. Just to make sure I didn't miss one, I did a super search for any nodes by you that mention "poll". (Lots of nodes asking for ways to submit poll suggestions but not a single poll suggestion actually submitted)

The procedure I use for receiving poll suggestions from users is in the site documentation (no other gods have offered to support any alternate submission methods that I've seen and no users have ponied up the effort to support any alternate submission methods that I've seen).

And suggesting a poll title is not writing a poll. It is just another example of asking someone else to do the work for you.

I'd say "put up or shut up" but I don't have any expectation that you'll do either. *yawn*

- tye        

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Re^3: Should we have more Perl "style" related Polls? (SEP)
by monkfan (Curate) on Nov 09, 2004 at 20:46 UTC
    Sorry for my ignorance of PM doc on posting poll suggestion, tye.
    I have posted my suggestion there.

    Regards,
    Edward
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Re^3: Should we have more Perl "style" related Polls? (SEP)
by jacques (Priest) on Nov 09, 2004 at 19:45 UTC
    Breathe tye, breathe before you post.

    I have not submitted a poll because, as you already know, I think your suggestion procedure is bad IMHO. I have made suggestions for improving the procedure before but I believe you rejected them as stupid, so why should I implement something?

    Look, I would be more than happy to work on this, as long as my time and effort are not wasted. (That's a big "if" considering your machine-gun responses to my posts.) Besides, I am tired of bringing it up all the time.

    Here's one thing that (I think) could be added in less than 30 seconds: Below the results of each poll, there could be a link to how to create a poll. People who view poll results would likely be interested in suggesting polls and placing a link there would make sense...

    (And I am serious about helping out... breathe, breathe!)

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      Breathe tye, breathe [....] breathe, breathe!

      Read whatever emotion you wish into what I write. Whatever makes you feel better... or worse. Whatever you are shooting for.

      but I believe you rejected them as stupid

      Sorry, I can't help you with a faulty belief system. Show me where I said a suggestion of yours was stupid. All suggestions I recall or found again look like more of "someone else please do something for me". If noone has bothered to implement a suggestion, then you'd have to ask everyone who didn't why they didn't (especially the one who proposed the idea). I haven't implemented most either simply because it isn't a priority for me or, for some ideas, because implementing them would require on-going work which I have no desire to volunteer for (and noone else has volunteered for either).

      Below the results of each poll, there could be a link

      Great. Work on that. Write up the exact wording and HTML of how you think it would read well and look good. Find someone to submit it as a patch. Petition someone for access to submit the patch yourself.

      If you get really specific about it, you might even get someone to tell you what they don't like about some detail of your choices which might stimulate more interest and help something to actually happen beyond "I link would be nice", "Yeah, it would", ...

      Of course, this will do nothing to make submitting a poll suggestion any easier for you so we'll still be left with you complaining about wanting better polls and never providing any.

      Why should I be doing work to make submitting of polls trivial enough for you to finally be able lift a finger and actually submit a poll suggestion? There is no evidence that my time wouldn't be wasted on you. So we're even on that point.

      There are several other gods and tons of pmdev members. If none of them have implemented your ideas... then site policy say to blame tye. (:

      - tye        

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      Besides, I am tired of bringing it up all the time.

      Then why do you continue to do so?

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