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Re^3: Anonymous Monk Voting/XP
by castaway (Parson) on Nov 07, 2005 at 12:16 UTC
    Ok, I went back and read your actual suggestion. My problem with it is that it all hangs on the theory (I'd like to see some proof), that people prefer not to vote on AM nodes, when they don't have very many votes to spend. As far as I'm aware, thats not the case. Therefore there is no reason to change the way voting on AM nodes works at all.

    The suggestions also hang together with the miscomprehension that reputation of nodes and XP are directly related. They arent. Anonymous Monk does not have/need/get any XP. AMs nodes DO have reputation however. Changing how votes on AMs nodes work would skew the system, they should be regarded in exactly the same light as all other authored nodes.

    Does that explain my point of view better?

    C.

      Does that explain my point of view better?

      I see your point, but I feel the same as the OP. I very rarely vote AM posts. I sometimes don't upvote nodes I know will have high reputation anyhow. I often upvotes posts from Monks I like, whatever it's about. BrowserUk says he upvotes all of Abigail's posts, too, so obviously who the post comes from is definetely important to many.
      Everyone follows (his|her) motivations to select what to (up|down)vote for; if many people do care about whom post it is, then may be should we consider altering the way AM posts reputation work (I personnally think voting for AM posts could be "free", it would be pretty nice).

        Well, that proves there are some users who vote more hesitatingly on Anonymonk posts. Can we generalise to all users from that?

        Makeshifts last the longest.

Re^3: Anonymous Monk Voting/XP
by ambrus (Abbot) on Nov 07, 2005 at 11:11 UTC

    The author can't, but other monks can see the reputation of such nodes (after they have voted). I do vote on anonymous posts the same way as non-anonymous posts.

    Update: and I don't know how it is with others, but I very rarely feel I have too few votes. I almost never run out of them.

Re^3: Anonymous Monk Voting/XP
by castaway (Parson) on Nov 07, 2005 at 12:02 UTC
    The point I was trying to make, is that your reasoning/motivation for voting on a node should not include whether or not you wish the author of the node to see how nice you were to them, or that you wish to give the author more XP. Whether they get any or not is a random occurence. The motivation should be "Do I think this node is good/useful, should it be seen more proinently by other people" .. etc.

    I find I have no shortage of votes, mainly because I only vote when I have a strong positive or negative feeling about a node.. Also I do not read every single node/reply ever written.. Who has the time ?

    How do you know other monks won't vote? This is the first time I've heard of people not voting on nodes by AM.

    C.

      I don't vote on Anonymous Monk postings:
      • I don't have any filter to show/hide postings which are voted highly or voted down. Without such a mechanism, there's not much value to me personally in voting for/against nodes at all. If I could send all -3 nodes to a virtual oubliette, I'd be quite happy.
      • The votes are more of a feedback mechanism to let authors know if the community finds the node as valuable discussion fodder. The anonymous writer can't see the feedback on their own node, so it does not help encourage anonymous writers to ask good questions nor does it discourage them from writing unresearched junk.

      (I'm not saying that I vote for things I agree on, and vote down things that I disagree; to me, a ++ is for nodes which aren't a complete waste of everyone's time, even if it's not a perfect answer or a perfect question.)

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Re^3: Anonymous Monk Voting/XP
by Aristotle (Chancellor) on Nov 07, 2005 at 14:56 UTC

    When there is a shortage of votes, which there is undoubtedly is

    “Undoubtedly?” Strong language. Can you back it up?

    Makeshifts last the longest.

Re^3: Anonymous Monk Voting/XP
by sauoq (Abbot) on Nov 07, 2005 at 12:24 UTC
    It is that in reality it will get less XP,

    And you have plenty of empirical evidence to back up this claim? Or are you just guessing?

    -sauoq
    "My two cents aren't worth a dime.";