Re^3: Perl Job Postings

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Re^4: Perl Job Postings by xdg (Monsignor) on Mar 07, 2007 at 20:46 UTC
O'Reilly could just have easily syndicated jobs.perl.org on the perl.com page and redirected jobs.perl.com to that jobs.perl.org. Instead, O'Reilly rolled out a paid service. And even the "Jobs on the web" section doesn't bother to include the jobs.perl.org rss feed. It's not exactly the most supportive thing O'Reilly could have done on this front. It seems more about an O'Reilly agenda than anything else. (Hey, they are a business, after all.) And I don't really get your point about it being companies that "wouldn't use" jobs.perl.org -- companies that didn't use jobs.perl.org, perhaps. (Possibly because they never knew about it.) -xdg Code written by xdg and posted on PerlMonks is public domain. It is provided as is with no warranties, express or implied, of any kind. Posted code may not have been tested. Use of posted code is at your own risk.	[reply]
Re^5: Perl Job Postings by chromatic (Archbishop) on Mar 07, 2007 at 21:14 UTC
I'll see what I can do about getting jobs.perl.org jobs into the "Jobs on the Web" category. My point about j.p.o is that, regardless of any intent, there's an implicit "You must be at least this tall regarding the Perl community" to post a job there. Any company that's outsourced all of its recruiting to an agency (whether that's a good idea is outside of the point) probably doesn't even have the option to post jobs there. I'm sure there are plenty of good arguments about whether they should even be able to list Perl jobs if they can't control their hiring, but there are plenty of good job situations at plenty of decent companies just looking for good programmers and not all of them have completely synchronized with the community in such a way that j.p.o will bring them all together. Further, there was absolutely no chance that I'd get development and design resources to do a single thing on Perl.com without even the possibility of remuneration. If it's really so offensive that Perl.com hosts paid job listings (and if those paid listings are really somehow strangling the free listings at jobs.perl.org), then I'm open to the idea of cancelling them if and only if there are other ways to make Perl.com at least pay its operating expenses.	[reply]
Re^6: Perl Job Postings by virtualsue (Vicar) on Mar 10, 2007 at 09:47 UTC
Last month, and not for the first time, I sent a recruiter who had contacted me with (for want of a better phrase) a "Perl job" to jobs.perl.org, and he promptly posted the position there. I have never really noticed that there was any sort of snootiness regarding one's standing in the Perl community and jobs.perl.org, and even if I had, I can't imagine caring. It's a good resource, and people with a legitimate need should use it. jobs.perl.com appears to be 100% US-centric right now so it doesn't fill quite the same need.	[reply]
Re^6: Perl Job Postings by DrHyde (Prior) on Mar 08, 2007 at 10:29 UTC
My point about j.p.o is that, regardless of any intent, there's an implicit "You must be at least this tall regarding the Perl community" to post a job there. The only barrier to entry of jobs.perl.org is knowing that it exists.	[reply]
Re^7: Perl Job Postings by jdporter (Paladin) on Mar 08, 2007 at 14:34 UTC
Re^8: Perl Job Postings by DrHyde (Prior) on Mar 09, 2007 at 10:20 UTC
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Re^5: Perl Job Postings by rhesa (Vicar) on Mar 07, 2007 at 21:25 UTC
I think you're coming down a bit too strongly on O'Reilly here. The way I see it, the service on jobs.perl.com exposes the average Perl programmer to a different set of opportunities, and that can only be a good thing. Besides, when's the last time you saw job openings at Google, eBay or Amazon on jobs.perl.org?	[reply]