FYI, I posted the original question, but cookie problems conspired to make it post as anon. Yes, stubmaker just generates a wrapper to make the calls easier. The results still just returns nested hashes for complex data types. I'm looking for something that would generate classes that could be used instead of the nested hashes. One class per complex type with get/set methods to access the members of that complex type. Or something like that. I haven't been able to find anything like this among the SOAP::Lite docs. I hadn't seen the soaplite.com site before, but a quick glance doesn't find anything new. I will certainly browse some more to see if there is something I can use.