With that said, I find it hard to believe that the intent is to start with a "|". And I noticed that "HTML error reporting during Preview" shows missing </li> tags after every link in every nodelet using the new layout. Maybe someone accidentally pushed some code out -- or pushed the wrong code out). Whatever happened, "rush job" definitely comes to mind.

Thank you sincerely for your feedback. It is much appreciated. It's definitely better than being "warnocked". :-)

Whatever happened, "rush job" definitely comes to mind.

Now that, I have to take at least a little bit of exception to. On the gripping hand, you have to remember that we have no dev site. The only way to try any changes of any consequence is to alter the live site. If it turns out that a patch breaks things, or is considered regressive by most monks, then we can roll it back. On the loosing hand, making the grand change I had in mind — which necessarily involved numerous patches and doc edits — could not be done even remotely atomically; it took days. And I carefully examined the effects of each one, trying to calculate how it contributed to the desired trajectory. Understanding that between the moment the first alteration is made and the grand change is finally complete the site is in some sense "broken", I did my best to do it all as quickly as possible, while being careful not to miss any unexpected side-effects.

I find it hard to believe that the intent is to start with a "|"

It's not really so unbelievable, is it? I think you could get used to it in about 2 days. In any case, if you really hate it, you can get rid of the first "|" through css.

What is the sound of Windows? Is it not the sound of a wall upon which people have smashed their heads... all the way through?

I find it hard to believe that the intent is to start with a "|"

It's not really so unbelievable, is it? I think you could get used to it in about 2 days. In any case, if you really hate it, you can get rid of the first "|" through css.

Oh man!! Aesthetically and from a layout and design standpoint it's horrible! Instead of "rush job" clearly I should have been thinking "aesthetically challenged"!! :-/

And no, I won't get used to it in a couple days!! I mean do you really think this looks fine:

 | My info | User | Display | Nodelet
| Timezone | Signature | Newest 
Nodes | RAT Style | Free Nodelet |
Personal Nodelet | Message | 
Pmdev | ignored users
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Especially when surrounded by a box? The first "|" doesn't line up vertically with the rest of the text which looks horrible form a layout and design perspective. The links are word wrapped, which is poor UI design and it looks bad from a layout and design perspective. And it doesn't end with a "|" which makes it inconsistent. And it looks like someone just starting out in programming wrote it this way because they couldn't figure out how to avoid adding it to the beginning of the list!!

Granted, I get that you are kludging these changes onto a linked list which does presetnt limitations, but that doesn't change that the results are less than stellar. And I'm still trying to figure out what problem this was trying to solve. I mean, I have a ton of nodelets that scroll down off the page. The only thing the new terse linked lists do for me is make me cringe at the bad design. It reminds me of the rule that you don't let C programmers design X-windows window managers (at least not if you want them to look good).

Sorry, but from an aesthetic and UI design perspective it just doesn't cut it. Guess I will have to learn some CSS because the "best" that will ever happen is I will get used to cringing at it. I will never get used to looking at it. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but aesthetically, it really is that jarring to me.

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Not that I care much how Find Nodes is formatted. I seldomly use it, and it isn't that the gained screen estate is being reused by something else (in my case, the freed up screen space is just white).