Re^2: Why is it in some other popular languages fewer steps and potential issues when installing libraries no testing needed and no compilation of C/C++ code done

But what about not needing to compile any C/C++ code that is in the library?

Just trying to understand to see how Perl can be made easier for beginners and not-so-beginners. People like us who have used the language for a long while and know well CPAN/CPANPLUS/App::cpanminus have no issues, but we should make things as easy as I see it in Python, beginners are the people that become our future Perl community and expand the usage of the language.

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Re^3: Why is it in some other popular languages fewer steps and potential issues when installing libraries no testing needed and no compilation of C/C++ code done by Corion (Patriarch) on Apr 06, 2011 at 13:32 UTC
If the C library is included with the Perl distribution, CPAN (or App::cpanminus) will kick off the normal C compilation mechanism provided by ExtUtils::MakeMaker, Module::Install or Module::Build, and you will not need any additional interaction. I'm not sure how things can be made easier than `> cpan DBD::SQLite` [download] to install, for example, DBD::SQLite.	[reply] [d/l]
Re^4: Why is it in some other popular languages fewer steps and potential issues when installing libraries no testing needed and no compilation of C/C++ code done by hermida (Scribe) on Apr 06, 2011 at 13:40 UTC
I know, I know, but let me tell you how many people in my community (which is a major user of Perl) think cpan management is too complicated and always ask why in other languages you just get a jar or egg or whatever for dependency management. Trust me I'm not complaining at all I am the one who sets up all the CPAN infrastructure for the sysadmins so it is super simple for them to install and upgrade libraries and I have my own local repo and install in my $HOME directory	[reply]
Re^5: Why is it in some other popular languages fewer steps and potential issues when installing libraries no testing needed and no compilation of C/C++ code done by Corion (Patriarch) on Apr 06, 2011 at 13:44 UTC
Ah - then you will need to see the platform specific packages for whatever platform (.ppm for ActiveState Perls, .deb for Debian etc.) you are using. Depending on the kind of platform, you even get management of external dependencies.	[reply]
Re^5: Why is it in some other popular languages fewer steps and potential issues when installing libraries no testing needed and no compilation of C/C++ code done by Anonymous Monk on Apr 06, 2011 at 14:14 UTC
DBD::SQLite http://kobesearch.cpan.org/dist/DBD-SQLite http://ppm4.activestate.com/author/ADAMK.html http://ppm4.activestate.com/MSWin32-x86/5.8/825/A/AD/ADAMK/DBD-SQLite-1.31.ppmx http://ppm4.activestate.com/MSWin32-x86/5.10/1000/A/AD/ADAMK/DBD-SQLite-1.31.ppmx http://ppm4.activestate.com/MSWin32-x86/5.12/1200/A/AD/ADAMK/DBD-SQLite-1.31.ppmx http://ppm4.activestate.com/MSWin32-x64/5.12/1200/A/AD/ADAMK/DBD-SQLite-1.31.ppmx http://ppm4.activestate.com/darwin/5.10/1000/A/AD/ADAMK/DBD-SQLite-1.31.ppmx http://ppm4.activestate.com/i686-linux/5.8/818/A/AD/ADAMK/DBD-SQLite-1.31.ppmx http://ppm4.activestate.com/x86_64-linux/5.10/1000/A/AD/ADAMK/DBD-SQLite-1.31.ppmx http://ppm4.activestate.com/sun4-solaris-64/5.12/1200/A/AD/ADAMK/DBD-SQLite-1.31.ppmx	[reply]