in reply to Re^4: Scope::Upper localize?
in thread Scope::Upper localize?

With Guard, you get to set up a call back when the scope is left to clean up whatever.

Ah - sorry - I meant that the localizing code returns such a guard object, so that the caller can then decide whether to clean up at exit or to pass that guard on upwards again.

I'm still unaware of where that implicit localization-at-a-distance would be good design. The following code seems to me to solve the problem in a pure-perl fashion, and keeps the localization somewhat explicit, instead of prodding through the enclosing pads by name:

#!perl -w use strict; use Guard; sub alias {\@_}; sub localize { my @values = @{ +pop }; # or any other convenient method my $aliases=alias(@_); my @saved= @_; #warn Dumper \@saved; $_[$_] = $values[$_] for 0..$#values; guard { $aliases->[$_]=$saved[$_] for 0..$#saved; }; }; my ($a,$b)=('a','b'); print "Start\n"; print qq($a $b),"\n"; my $restore=localize($a,$b,['foo','bar']); print "Localized\n"; print qq($a $b),"\n"; undef $restore; print "Restored\n"; print qq($a $b), "\n"; __END__ Start a b Localized foo bar Restored a b

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Re^6: Scope::Upper localize?
by Anonymous Monk on Sep 11, 2012 at 20:54 UTC

    -- Pure perl fashion

    Guard isn't pure perl.

    If you find that mess preferable to localize(), go for it.

      I only used Guard for convenience. It can easily be replaced by

      package My::Guard; use strict; sub new { bless $_[1] => $_[0]; }; sub DESTROY { $_[0]->() };

      The full (and really pure Perl) program then becomes:

      #!perl -w package My::Guard; use strict; sub new { bless $_[1] => $_[0]; }; sub DESTROY { $_[0]->() }; package main; use strict; sub alias {\@_}; sub localize { my @values = @{ +pop }; # or any other convenient method my $aliases=alias(@_); my @saved= @_; #warn Dumper \@saved; $_[$_] = $values[$_] for 0..$#values; My::Guard->new(sub{ $aliases->[$_]=$saved[$_] for 0..$#saved; }) }; my ($a,$b)=('a','b'); print "Start\n"; print qq($a $b),"\n"; my $restore=localize($a,$b,['foo','bar']); print "Localized\n"; print qq($a $b),"\n"; undef $restore; print "Restored\n"; print qq($a $b), "\n";

      But still, you haven't convinced me that there are problems to which Scope::Upper is a good solution.

      Update: As an afterthought, for somebody who thinks they need Scope::Upper, I think you should investigate the easier and potentially less powerful methods first, like having a destructor invoke a callback. I don't consider this a rare/outlandish technique, and there are many packages implementing this, like AtExit, Aspect::Guard, Scope::Guard and ReleaseAction.

      Update2: Of course, this clever idea has a big drawback. It doesn't work for arrays and hashes.

        -- you haven't convinced me that there are problems to which Scope::Upper is a good solution.

        Do I need to convince you?

        I only need convince myself before I chose to use it (or not) in my code?