You continue with this fundamental misunderstanding of the EU being a "state".

> Well, be fair, there was definitely state coercion and a little resulting violence in Catalonia lately.

The conflict in Catalonia is purely internal, and Brussels denies being used by one or the other side.

The EU has only very limited possibilities to control or "punish" a member state.

Actually it was the EU ( well rather the predecessor "European Community" ) which helped transforming Spain and Portugal into stable democracies.

It's like blaming a club if one of his members is quarrelling with his wife.

> There have been no specifically EU atrocities except as the EU has supported the US's irrational, violent nonsense

Some member states supported the Iraq invasion (UK and Poland*), others opposed it strictly (Germany and France).

The EU as such wasn't involved!!!

Keep in mind that some EU members (Austria, Sweden, Finland, Ireland ) are NOT in the NATO and some neutral by constitution!

Cheers Rolf
(addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)
Je suis Charlie!

*) actually Poland was at that time not a EU member yet.

In reply to Re^14: Patience is a Cheese Sandwich by LanX
in thread Patience is a Monk Virtue by marinersk

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