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Besides... Perlmonks is declining in activity. I for one welcome anyone who's willing to ask questions here

Perhaps we needed to ask, and still need to ask: "What would need to happen for PerlMonks to grow in activity?" (as distinct from "grow inactivity"!)

Other than The Monastery, I know little about other Perl communities and gatherings. Do wiser Monks believe that the majority of serious1 Perl coders frequent here? If they do, then the question is wider and becomes: "What would have to happen to get Perl to become a more universally used language?"

1 define "serious" however you like...

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Re^4: Editing node titles w.r.t. Perl 6 (communities)
by eyepopslikeamosquito (Archbishop) on Jan 07, 2024 at 01:03 UTC

    What would need to happen for PerlMonks to grow in activity?

    In the early 2000s, I tried Perl Monks and Stack Overflow and Perl related mailing lists. At first I liked the mailing lists (especially fun with perl ... though not perl 5 porters, which I found to be the opposite of fun ;-). Over time, I stopped visiting SO and posting to Perl mailing lists, but stuck with Perl Monks, mainly due to the enjoyable sense of community here. Having said that, I don't know how to promote and enhance the Perl Monks sense of community. Suggestions welcome.

    What would have to happen to get Perl to become a more universally used language?

    This is easier to answer: make Perl more attractive for new projects! As argued convincingly in the Why Perl Didn't Win essay, an ecosystem focused on maintaining existing projects, rather than creating new projects, will be less attractive for new projects :) ... and being adopted for new projects is how you win the language war in the long run. This interesting topic is analysed in much more detail at Organizational Culture (Part VI): Sociology. 

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Re^4: Editing node titles w.r.t. Perl 6 (Perl Monks Culture References)
by eyepopslikeamosquito (Archbishop) on Jan 07, 2024 at 06:55 UTC
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Re^4: Editing node titles w.r.t. Perl 6 (communities)
by LanX (Saint) on Jan 06, 2024 at 22:57 UTC
    > Do wiser Monks believe that the majority of serious1 Perl coders frequent here?

    No. Many different "Perl communities" with random mutual overlap.

    > Definition of serious

    I talked to some attendants of conferences, to perlmongers (= local user groups) and to CPAN authors on other channels.

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    see Wikisyntax for the Monastery

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      to perlmongers

      Do any still exist?

      All the UK Groups seem to have dead or very out-of-date websites...

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        I know at least 6.5 in Germany, but not all meet on a regular basis. Some circumvent mailman because of random spam filtering. And websites, if they exist, are not kept up to date.

        So yes public relations wise they are weak.

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        see Wikisyntax for the Monastery

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