in reply to am I paying vroom to continue his dictatorship?

It's ironic to me that vroom is accused of having a heavy hand in managing this site.  I always thought that vroom's presence was hardly noticable, very unintrusive.  Sure I see his name here and there, but I also see this site very much as community controled and see vroom as a facilitator.  I admire vroom's style as in keeping with the 37th 17th chapter of the Tao Te Ching:

The existence of the leader who is wise
is barely known to those he leads.
He acts without unnecessary speech,
so that the people say,
"It happened of its own accord"

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    -Translation by Stan Rosenthal

Update
You're right agentv (see below), it is the 17th chapter.
I updated the comment above and the link.

-Thanks.

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Re: Re: am I paying vroom to continue his dictatorship?
by agentv (Friar) on Sep 18, 2002 at 20:46 UTC
    I admire vroom's style as in keeping with the 37th chapter of the Tao Te Ching:

    I looked through several translations and didn't find exactly that. (Actually, on further check, it appears as the 17th chapter.)

    So here's the translation from my favorite version (by Ursula K. LeGuin) 

    When the work's done right,
with no fuss or boasting,
ordinary people say,
Oh, we did it.

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    But I also found something in the 37th chapter that I liked a lot. Again, from the LeGuin translation: 

    The Way never does anything
and everything gets done.
If those in power could hold to the Way
then ten thousand things
would look after themselves.

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    or (from the Thomas Cleary translation): 
    The Way is always uncontrived,
yet there's nothing that it doesn't do.
If lords and monarchs could keep to it,
all beings would evolve spontaneously.

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    Sort of sounds like a plug for Open Source, eh?

    ...All the world looks like -well- all the world, when your hammer is Perl.
    ---v

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