in reply to Re^5: Accessing Array of Arrays
in thread Accessing Array of Arrays

This is the sequence of events

Compelling, but with one flaw: the complaint was anonymous and may or may not have been GuiPerl.

In fact, I agree that in general, a node that only says RTFM is useless.

civility costs you nothing ... only effort is required

Except that "so read the documentation" is not a civil response and doesn't show any effort. It could have at least included a link to split.

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Re^7: Accessing Array of Arrays
by Jenda (Abbot) on Oct 05, 2014 at 15:28 UTC

    RTFM, especially if containing a link to TFM is both civil and helpful and it shows just as much effort as needs to be shown. Ability to RTFM is a vital skill and if it takes some coaxing then so be it!

    Jenda
    Enoch was right!
    Enjoy the last years of Rome.

      I think a response to a posting of "I do not know how to split properly" should include a link to the documentation and the advice to read it, and of course I wish more people coming to post here would read the docs and Google their question first. But apparently you and the other anon have a different sense of rudeness than me. IMO:

      Positive: "The split documentation describes its behavior well and contains several helpful examples. If you have any specific questions about split please don't hesitate to ask, and remember to follow the advice in 'How do I post a question effectively?' to get the most effective help."

      Civil: "The split function is documented, with examples, in split."

      Rude: "so read the documentation."

      A pure "read the docs" without anything additional - which is what this whole little subthread is about - is entirely useless because the response "Why don't you go figure it out on your own?", whether rude or not, applies to every question asked here. As for rudeness, remember that RTFM has two equally valid synonyms: "Read The Fine Manual" and "Read The F**king Manual", and it is not civil. Even if the post in question isn't that rude, or maybe it wasn't even intended to be rude, it's still useless.

        Well, considering how "specific" was the "question", the answer was about as specific as it could have been. Apparently the description of the split() built-in is not the only doc GuiPerl needs to read. The whole of perldata for example. Seems to me he's mostly stabbing in the dark not really knowing what he's doing.

        BTW, we are all supposed to be programmers in here. If you want a wishy washy feel good yada yada you're probably not at the right place.

        Jenda
        Enoch was right!
        Enjoy the last years of Rome.

        ...But apparently you and the other anon have a different sense of rudeness than me...

        Good.

        Please take this as an opportunity to learn more about the english language and keeping your cool

        civil means behaving in a reasonable or polite manner.

        "so read the documentation" is not the same as RTFM , its the very definition of civil

        and its as overly friendly as "Well good friend , this is the short article that explains that particular function so well , if you take the time to read it, I'm sure you will be able to use split like the champion that you are in very short order, good luck and have good fun, here is a cookie , enjoy"

        Next time you encounter postings that anger you write it down but do not publish

        Next time you find an answer isn't helpful according to your standards , do the thing you think should have been done, write the better answer , be the change you want to see :)

Re^7: Accessing Array of Arrays
by Anonymous Monk on Oct 05, 2014 at 09:42 UTC

    Compelling, but with one flaw: the complaint was anonymous and may or may not have been GuiPerl.

    Who claimed it was Guiperl?

    There is no flaw, rudeness helps nobody, no matter the origin

    Except that "so read the documentation" is not a civil response ...

    Except that it is the very definition of a civil response.

    You're not being reasonable.