UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python?

ndo has asked for the wisdom of the Perl Monks concerning the following question:

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Re: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by ww (Archbishop) on Mar 16, 2015 at 22:32 UTC
Probably a better idea: a book focused on Perl itself; namely Learning Perl ( ~~AKA "The Camel" and~~(`brainfog! See first reply, below and TY AppleFritter`) widely regarded as the gold standard for those introducing themselves to Perl) rather than a text diluted by OS info/restrictions. You might also consider free-and-open educational (college and U) sites which offer tutorials; and would likely profit by simply using your favor search engine with the terms "Perl Tutorial" or "Perl primer" or something similar. For nix, there are many books; enormous amounts on online info; and, likely, local or regional schools that will also do better by you than a mashed up into to nix (of whatever flavor) and a programming language. Disclaimer: I know nothing about the book you initially cite, positive or negative... but I am confident that Learning Perl would serve you well. For Python advice, suggest you address your question to the appropriate Stack Overflow realm or seek out a site focused on Python. Spirit of the Monastery	[reply] [d/l]
Re^2: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by AppleFritter (Vicar) on Mar 16, 2015 at 23:36 UTC
namely Learning Perl (AKA "The Camel" and widely regarded as the gold standard for those introducing themselves to Perl) If you'll allow me to pick a small nit: Learning Perl is the Llama; the Camel is, of course, Programming Perl.	[reply]
Re^2: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by LanX (Saint) on Mar 17, 2015 at 00:19 UTC
This account was most probably only created for trolling ... better just ignore him. Cheers Rolf _{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)} PS: Je suis Charlie!	[reply]
Re^3: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by Anonymous Monk on Mar 17, 2015 at 00:25 UTC
You know you could have messaged that so that we can see for ourselves if its really a troll ... you call troll way too much LanX	[reply]
Re^4: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by LanX (Saint) on Mar 17, 2015 at 01:00 UTC
Re^5: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by Anonymous Monk on Mar 17, 2015 at 02:27 UTC
Some notes below your chosen depth have not been shown here
Re: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by MonkOfAnotherSect (Sexton) on Mar 18, 2015 at 05:40 UTC
(Edit: As requested, posting here instead of my scratchpad) On the somewhat charitable assumption that no trolling was intended, here's some Python FAQs for Perlmonks (well, they're more IQA than anything). Please feel free to refer folks as required. Python FAQs for Perlmonks (With few exceptions that also involve Perl) Perlmonks is not the place for Python questions. There is no direct Python equivalent to Perlmonks. Google Is Your Friend. The best location for general Python-related questions is either python-list, aka USENET's comp.lang.python (for basic-advanced questions), the python-tutor mailing list for novice questions, or reddit's learnpython. No, Really. Google Is Your Friend. (Personally) the best book for someone coming from another language is the Python Cookbook. It's totally different from the Perl Cookbook, though. The very moribund PLEAC translates much of the Perl Cookbook v1's code into various languages, including Python. There's lots of other resources. Try python.org. Don't try the NSFW python.com. The actual questions are left as an exercise for the reader... Cheers, -T.	[reply]
Re^2: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by ww (Archbishop) on Mar 18, 2015 at 17:50 UTC
Please post the substance of your answers inside the thread. There's less chance a reply node will disappear or become unreachable or be changed than that any of those may happen to wisdom recorded only in your pad. Spirit of the Monastery	[reply] [d/l]
Re^2: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by choroba (Cardinal) on Mar 18, 2015 at 07:49 UTC
Please, use `[pad://]` to link to your scratchpad, so we don't get logget out when trying to reach it. لսႽ† ᥲᥒ⚪⟊Ⴙᘓᖇ Ꮅᘓᖇ⎱ Ⴙᥲ𝇋ƙᘓᖇ	[reply] [d/l]
Re^2: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by ndo (Initiate) on Mar 21, 2015 at 00:25 UTC
pleac i find actually fascinating, and the fact that there is also groovy and its 100% :D not that i understand/or looked at much of that code yet. but one day.. step at a time :)	[reply]
Re: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by Anonymous Monk on Mar 17, 2015 at 03:35 UTC
So this is the books website: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue!: A Field Guide for the Life Sciences (and Other Data-rich Pursuits): Dr Keith Bradnam, Ian Korf And apparently : How good is their Unix & Perl material ( Unix & Perl Primer for Biologists ) ? Good enough to get you a job in bioinformatics! So armed with that knowledge I try python for biologists, stumble upon Python for Biologists books (Python for Biologists and Advanced Python for Biologists) which is kinda similar enough .. so look at the reviews, the perl book by PhD, this book by a PhD ... seemingly positive reviews ... you probably won't go wrong looking more in depth at reviews of this book and comparing to the reviews for the perl book, comparing the table of contents So I think thats it :) please check it out and report back (in this thread) your thoughts/experiences	[reply]
Re^2: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by ww (Archbishop) on Mar 17, 2015 at 12:22 UTC
Piled higher (&) Deeper authorship is no guarantee of quality content. :-) Quite seriously, tho, if you can tell me the PhD author is a bioinformatics practitioner with a some serious CS and Perl background, I'd take citing the authorship more seriously. But merely citing degrees is NOT a recommendation, per se. Try "Learning Perl" -- at least for a start. Spirit of the Monastery	[reply] [d/l]
Re^3: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by Anonymous Monk on Mar 17, 2015 at 22:58 UTC
Piled higher (&) Deeper authorship is no guarantee of quality content. :-) Quite seriously, tho, if you can tell me the PhD author is a bioinformatics practitioner with a some serious CS and Perl background, I'd take citing the authorship more seriously. But merely citing degrees is NOT a recommendation, per se. Try "Learning Perl" -- at least for a start. ww, you can't learn python from "Learning Perl" and "Learning Perl" doesn't touch upon biology Have you even looked at the freely available primer that is the inspiration for this book? Its pretty good	[reply]
Re^4: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by ww (Archbishop) on Mar 18, 2015 at 12:19 UTC
Re^4: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by pvaldes (Chaplain) on Mar 18, 2015 at 14:42 UTC
Re^4: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by ndo (Initiate) on Mar 21, 2015 at 00:39 UTC
Re^2: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by ndo (Initiate) on Mar 21, 2015 at 00:13 UTC
Hi again people, :) Thank you for this response, its much better then accusing me of trolling. :D I actually already even also had a tought in this direction. But after looking around a bit it looks to me that "Python for Unix and Linux System Administration" might be closest to the answer. Because of my interest in OSs growing into interest in Scripting/interpreted/memory managed langs. Also nice to know about Lama. Cuz 1000 pages scare me somewhat. Since to conquer it i will have to take same dedicated approach like with a with Bible, and it will surely also take a year or so, if not even more. p.s. Actually, if i think about it. It might look indeed that im trolling. Because it seems i like to ask some controversial questions. :D Like about Python on a Perl forum right. Who even does such a thing.. :) hf guys, cu	[reply]
Re^3: UNIX and Perl to the Rescue --like book for Python? by LanX (Saint) on Mar 21, 2015 at 13:14 UTC
> Who even does such a thing.. :) Quack! Quack, quack ...? :) Cheers Rolf _{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)} PS: Je suis Charlie!	[reply]