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hmm ... at least Your Mother and Hippo should know, it's not online anymore.

Cheers Rolf
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Je suis Charlie!

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Re^4: Perl Developer Survey 2017 results are available
by hippo (Archbishop) on Apr 28, 2017 at 08:15 UTC

    Surely you jest, brother LanX? That was almost 2 months ago. I can barely remember what I had for lunch yesterday.

    There were certainly some questions where multiple answers were available, eg. "Q5 What other languages do you use?" but I don't immediately recall if the IDE question was one of them as I would not have entered multiple answers there anyway.

    The survey is useful in a qualitative fashion but I agree that the results could have been better presented. It's unclear whether that's the fault of BiP or of surveyplanet.com (or both).

      > but I agree that the results could have been better presented.

      indeed, we are Perl devs: attach the raw _DATA_

      ;=)

      L*

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Re^4: Perl Developer Survey 2017 results are available
by Your Mother (Archbishop) on Apr 27, 2017 at 19:46 UTC

    I don’t recall that it was but my memory is not reliable at this point in time. I filled in ☑ Other: Emacs. I have been forced to develop in Notepad from time to time and I like Atom and TextMate.

      I use Vim technically, but for the most part, my platform for developing Perl code has been intelliJ IDEA with the Camelcade plugin, and Devel::Camelcadedb for debugging support (and of course, the vim plugin).

      Due to my Open Source work, I was recently approved for intelliJ's Open Source License, which includes every single piece of software they provide, opened to the professional level. I use a few of their tools for C/C++ (CLion, which hooks directly into my Arduino hardware), C# etc.

      I also use their PyCharm Professional at work, so every language I code in, I have consistency across the board, on *nix and Windows.

      I am not advocating for the company by any means; their free PyCharm/IDEA is what I used for a couple of years for Python/Perl before I realized they had a license for Open Source devs, which is a relatively new offering they provide. Throwing this info out there for others who do a lot of open source stuff that may be interested in looking into it.

      If I'm on a box without a UI, just doing a quick hack or don't have access to install anything, it's vi/vim (again, both platforms), especially after fixing a quick thing after doing a pull on one of my Raspberry Pi's.

      When I'm on a Windows system where gVim can't be installed, it's Notepad++ if available, and at very worst, Notepad (help my soul without 4-space tabs).

      Proud vi/vim user for 15+ years. Tried emacs a couple of times, but you know, you're typically either vi or emacs. I *can* bounce with emacs when necessary, but not very effectively/efficiently.

        > I use Vim technically, but for the most part, my platform for developing Perl code has been intelliJ IDEA with the Camelcade plugin

        Well that's the typical attitude, using vim key bindings in any IDE makes you a vim user? Sure!

        For instance Frankfurt.pm has 4 self proclaimed vi users, only one is a real one.

        I even witnessed one of them falling back on notepad++ and komodo because he wasn't able to install vim on windows.

        (Doesn't stop them making jokes about emacs)

        > Tried emacs a couple of times ...

        evil-mode provides a decent vim (not vi) emulation.

        Typically (I tested it on conferences) people can't tell the difference in terminal mode.

        So, does using evil-mode make me now a vim user?

        To be clear: My attitude towards vim is the same like towards Python, I like them and I see their advantages.

        My disdain goes to the crowd who is bad mouthing others, without even being able to master the basics of "their" system.

        The psychological process involved is obvious.

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)
        Je suis Charlie!