in reply to A New Respect

Intrepid,

I think you and I get along OK in the CB, so in an attempt to provide a reasonably objective contribution and try to smooth over what has become an unfortunate situation, perhaps I could make a couple of comments:

Not that I want to convey the impression that it's all your own fault. Far from it, there does seem to have developed a 'Intrepids going off on one, lets borg him before he builds up a head of steam' approach. While I have some sympathy with it at times (it can be difficult to get a word in edgeways once you really get going), it does seem to be edging increasingly in the direction of victimisation. For what it's worth, there does appear to be an element of mischievous schoolboy humour in it.

The relationship between you and some of the site grandees does seem to have degenerated into a downward spiral. Many another person would have given up and left the site in that situation, and it's to your credit that you have the strength of character not to have gone off in a huff.

BUT, your response to it does come across as rather more confrontational than is really necessary. In particular, your habit of documenting who you're ignoring on your homenode. Personally, I'm not interested who you are ignoring and why, and I think many others would agree. By documenting this, you are making a pointed public statement of your opinions of particular people, which could be considered rather rude.

It's worth bearing in mind that the way we construct our role in any relationship is through a dynamic, ongoing process of negotiation; we conform to the others expectations to a certain extent, and we help to construct the relationship by contributing a proportion of our own expectations.

For the future I'd like to suggest the following:

Intrepid: I understand your point of view, but continuing to be confrontational will just perpetuate the problem. A few homenode edits might show a willingness to compromise.

power users: While I can see an element of mischevious humour in borging Intrepid when the CB messages from him start to flow thick, fast and strongly opinionated, it is unfair to treat him differently from anyone else - whatever has happened in the past.

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Re^2: A New Respect
by Anonymous Monk on Mar 11, 2006 at 12:25 UTC
    and it's to your credit that you have the strength of character not to have gone off in a huff
    Intrepid was borged for a day. Instead of taking his forced cooling off period from chat, he created cannotsilence and returned to the chatterbox to continue.
    it is unfair to treat him differently from anyone else - whatever has happened in the past.
    But he is different, as evidenced by this thread. He just won't quit or start over. The purpose of perlmonks is to have fun enjoying perl, not picking pointless fights.

      -- for this post. While I agree with most of what you said (and, for the record, what I've seen of the proceedings show Intrepid behaving in a rude, utterly childish and irrational manner IMO), the fact that you posted this as AnonyMonk puts it into the realm of sniping and will only serve to further strengthen Intrepid's persecution complex. I thought g0n's post was a good attempt at bridge-building, more forgiving than I would have been but then sometimes you have to do that.


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