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You can log in on any public page; first go to the page,

(additional emphasis mine)

I personally believe that you may have imagined that in quite a few years (albeit many less than you) at the Monastery I should have noticed: indeed, I did notice. No offense taken, BTW: I'm clearly stating so because I realize my tone may suggest the contrary... OTOH you say the right thing: "go to!" And if I have to go to some page, it's not that much of a difference whether I go there before or after the login respectively.

Of course, your remark could just be a suggestion to save a bookmark to the given page I like and to login from that one. This does make sense. But, believe me: there are situations in which I don't want to save a bookmark anyway. Or I may just be on a public machine. Or at a friend's house.

To put it straight and clear: this is not a feature without which I can't live. But it would be so supposedly easy to implement, and lightweight, that it wouldn't be too bad to have... I login, and I'm in my favourite page to start my visits @ PM, period.

Or, even for non-public pages, do it in one fell swoop, like 
http://domain/?node_id=nnnnnn;op=login;user=uu;passwd=pp;expires=%2B10
+y

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This, instead, I ignored altogether: thank you! (Although I doubt I'll be using it...)

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Re^3: Customizable login page?
by ysth (Canon) on Aug 07, 2008 at 04:20 UTC
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      I'm unsure how to parse your first sentence. However, I think you may be pointing out that the login form has a node_id=XXXX hidden inside of it in order to determine which node gets loaded when one submits the form. Obviously, this node_id can't be set to blazar's personal favorite node's ID if we don't know yet that blazar is the monk who is going to use the form to log in. Which belies the "easy to implement" claim (since the point seems to be to avoid the extra round-trip which blazar must lack the patience for since there are so many ways to get to your favorite node with a single click after login and it isn't even hard to use Free-Nodelet JavaScript to eliminate the need to click).

      But it would be possible for the heart of the login code to note that $q->param('node_id') is login and override it (for POST requests). But that also strikes me as a rather sloppy hack. Perhaps not unacceptably crufty, though.

      - tye        

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        Re: parse, blazar seemed to be arguing that I was requiring an extra "go to" step. But his description of his desired flow left off the equivalent step of: "go to"-some-page-with-a-login-form.

        That's only a hack in that logging in via the nodelet login form on the login page arguably does the "wrong thing". Otherwise, there's nothing wrong with it, and it doesn't seem that bad to me.

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        the point seems to be to avoid the extra round-trip which blazar must lack the patience for since there are so many ways to get to your favorite node with a single click after login

        (Additional emphasis added by me)

        I personally believe that I'm doing my best to become a better person under that respect, since it is a virtue I've often complained not to possess to a high enough degree.

        it isn't even hard to use Free-Nodelet JavaScript to eliminate the need to click

        D'Oh! I constantly keep forgetting about the Free Nodelet. Of course, my complete ignorance of JS does play a role in this: indeed one single thing that really makes me want to possibly learn it is to hack PM!

        Anyway, this is a simple enoug task that I'm sure I can ask some knowledgeable friend, ad he would come up with a ready made solution. Thanks!

        Incidentally, I apologize for having made gratuitous assumptions on how easy it would be to add the feature I'm after, without actually knowing the codebase: of course it would require, if nothing else, the creation of a new column in the database holding each monk's favourite starting node...

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      So...what's your favorite page to start your PM visits?

      I personally believe to have confessed this detail several times, so you could be able to find out yourself by wandering through my mumblings. Of course, you have better things to do. But if I now tell you explicitly what that page is, you may think that I'm bad boy! ;)

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