JavaFan has asked for the wisdom of the Perl Monks concerning the following question:

Does anyone know when this is going to happen? Is it even going to happen? The organizers of YAPC::NA 2012 have been quite vocal, they have been blogging every day since it was announced YAPC::NA 2012 would be organized in Madison. Dates were known from the start. And they already have an impressive set of sponsors lined up. Contrast YAPC::EU 2012. If anyone is actively organizing it, I haven't noticed it. Their blog on blogs.perl.org has seen 5 posts since August 20, 2011, with the last one on September 18, 2011. There's a website "yapc2012.de", but other than the remark there's going to be a YAPC in Frankfurt, in August 2012, nothing....

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Re: YAPC::EU 2012
by Corion (Patriarch) on Dec 29, 2011 at 22:10 UTC

    The problem is that we have not yet got the signed contract back and thus we can't talk about much else. As soon as we got the contract together with the fixed date when YAPC::EU will be happening, we can be more communicative.

      To make it clearer, the organization which provides the venue forbids explicitly any publication of date and place before the contract is signed.

      We are actively working on this, but some factors so far were simply not under our control.

      Cheers Rolf

      UPDATE:

      And comparing with earlier European YAPC's we are very well in time :)

      --> YAPC::EU 2010... when exactly?

Re: YAPC::EU 2012
by LanX (Saint) on Dec 30, 2011 at 00:04 UTC
    > Dates were known from the start.

    Funny I heard this complain already in Riga from an other American.

    The point is that in we didn't know if we would get the event before we went to Riga, and we can hardly book things in advance. It seems the organizers in Madison knew it much earlier.

    Furthermore YAPC::NA takes place only in one country with 300 million inhabitants.

    (I heard that the only attempt to do it in Canada ended in a fiasco, because many Americans refused to come because they didn't have a passport.)

    One single country facilitate things extremely ...

    For example we need to found a registered society as a legal body. I suppose this overhead is not necessary in the US, you just use the last infrastructure.

    Furthermore finding sponsors in a country full of dot-coms is easier from the start, you just ask the old sponsors.

    And a a big national company in California can much better identify with Madison than lets say a Finnish big player with Frankfurt.

    But less money means more work to bargain cheap infrastructure.

    Anyway you could contact the Committee suggesting that the location of YAPC::EU 2013 will be decided much earlier, to make it easier for the organizers.

    Cheers Rolf

      Funny I heard this complain already in Riga from an other American.
      "An other American"? Are you implying I'm an American? ;-)
      I heard that the only attempt to do it in Canada ended in a fiasco, because many Americans refused to come because they didn't have a passport.
      Bollocks.

      I've been to both YAPC::NA 2001 in Montreal, and YAPC::NA 2005 in Toronto, and both were a success and did not suffer from "many Americans refusing to come because they did not have a passport". In 2001 and 2005, Americans did not need a passport to enter Canada, or to return home -- that only became an issue in 2009.

      For example we need to found a registered society as a legal body. I suppose this overhead is not necessary in the US, you just use the last infrastructure.
      AFAIK, YAPC::NA always uses TPF for that, as formally, TPF organizes YAPC::NA (and that's why the profits of its auction always went to TPF).
      Furthermore finding sponsors in a country full of dot-coms is easier from the start, you just ask the old sponsors.

      And a a big national company in California can much better identify with Madison than lets say a Finnish big player with Frankfurt.

      You're not going to ask Shadowcat, Booking.com, or Net-A-Porter this year, because they're too focussed on Letland? ;-)
      Anyway you could contact the Committee suggesting that the location of YAPC::EU 2013 will be decided much earlier, to make it easier for the organizers.
      Oh, I've been prodding several members for some time about that.
        so how many perl conferences did you organize? ;-)

        Cheers Rolf

Re: YAPC::EU 2012
by LanX (Saint) on Jan 23, 2012 at 10:16 UTC