in reply to YAPC::EU 2012

> Dates were known from the start.

Funny I heard this complain already in Riga from an other American.

The point is that in we didn't know if we would get the event before we went to Riga, and we can hardly book things in advance. It seems the organizers in Madison knew it much earlier.

Furthermore YAPC::NA takes place only in one country with 300 million inhabitants.

(I heard that the only attempt to do it in Canada ended in a fiasco, because many Americans refused to come because they didn't have a passport.)

One single country facilitate things extremely ...

For example we need to found a registered society as a legal body. I suppose this overhead is not necessary in the US, you just use the last infrastructure.

Furthermore finding sponsors in a country full of dot-coms is easier from the start, you just ask the old sponsors.

And a a big national company in California can much better identify with Madison than lets say a Finnish big player with Frankfurt.

But less money means more work to bargain cheap infrastructure.

Anyway you could contact the Committee suggesting that the location of YAPC::EU 2013 will be decided much earlier, to make it easier for the organizers.

Cheers Rolf

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Re^2: YAPC::EU 2012
by JavaFan (Canon) on Dec 30, 2011 at 00:33 UTC
    Funny I heard this complain already in Riga from an other American.
    "An other American"? Are you implying I'm an American? ;-)
    I heard that the only attempt to do it in Canada ended in a fiasco, because many Americans refused to come because they didn't have a passport.
    Bollocks.

    I've been to both YAPC::NA 2001 in Montreal, and YAPC::NA 2005 in Toronto, and both were a success and did not suffer from "many Americans refusing to come because they did not have a passport". In 2001 and 2005, Americans did not need a passport to enter Canada, or to return home -- that only became an issue in 2009.

    For example we need to found a registered society as a legal body. I suppose this overhead is not necessary in the US, you just use the last infrastructure.
    AFAIK, YAPC::NA always uses TPF for that, as formally, TPF organizes YAPC::NA (and that's why the profits of its auction always went to TPF).
    Furthermore finding sponsors in a country full of dot-coms is easier from the start, you just ask the old sponsors.

    And a a big national company in California can much better identify with Madison than lets say a Finnish big player with Frankfurt.

    You're not going to ask Shadowcat, Booking.com, or Net-A-Porter this year, because they're too focussed on Letland? ;-)
    Anyway you could contact the Committee suggesting that the location of YAPC::EU 2013 will be decided much earlier, to make it easier for the organizers.
    Oh, I've been prodding several members for some time about that.
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      so how many perl conferences did you organize? ;-)

      Cheers Rolf

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        What's your point? I cannot refute the false hearsay you're sprouting about conferences you haven't been too, and I have, but since you're trying to organize a conference you're superior?

        Look, all I asked was "when is that damned conference". Because, you know, in a few days it's 2012. People will start planning their vacations, and I'll have a bunch of team members who all would like to attent YAPC::EU (most have already spoken at least once on a YAPC). We have to plan things. (Me, after your post, not so interested anymore -- I've been to over 40 Perl conferences, spoken on all but 2 of them; I can miss your YAPC).

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