in reply to Re^15: Patience is a Cheese Sandwich
in thread Patience is a Monk Virtue

> key EU members backed the Iraq debacle

key EU members opposed the Iraq debacle.

> plays a role historically reserved to states and it does many things I personally consider harmful.

I agree, EU is not trading fairly with third world countries. Though most of them are ex colonies were the ruling class sends theri kids to schools in London or Paris ...

> To me this would include disbanding NATO, the UN, and the EU.

So you are an anarchist in the traditional meaning, OK.

My understanding of history is that without central rule and courts you have violent local conflicts.

Let's stop it here! :)

Cheers Rolf
(addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)
Je suis Charlie!

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Re^17: Patience is a Cheese Sandwich
by Your Mother (Archbishop) on Nov 15, 2017 at 21:44 UTC

    The EU requires you to share personal economic responsibility with every Greek. Since shared personal responsibility is a paradox, it can only fail. There is no local conflict in history that has killed as many persons as even the Catholic church, bringing it back around. I advocate for improvement, not perfection. There is no objective perfection in a natural world and the necessarily subjective pursuit of it has caused immense problems. I'm not an anarchist though I see the charm. I'm a classical Liberal who believes it is every bit as immoral to assert that one can be born into sin as be born into a contract.

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      > The EU requires you to share personal economic responsibility with every Greek.

      Not really.

      You probably mean the €uro, but it's just cheaper to bail them out and force them into reforms. ( I'm sceptical though)

      It's somehow like Puerto Rico + US now, with the difference that Greeks have equal rights and that Brussels actually sends money.

      Cheers Rolf
      (addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)
      Je suis Charlie!

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        And there is the f-word: force.

        Don't look at me over Puerto Rico. I may be wrong but I am consistent. :P I have always said they should either get statehood or the territory be released its own country. I still think so but unfortunately, at this late date, there may be no good choice. Either one would fix little and come with a new set of problems for them.

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