Amsterdam.pm stands for the Amsterdam Perl Mongers. We're basically a Perl user group. Despite its name, it is not local to the Amsterdam environment, but it welcomes Perl mongers from all over the Netherlands.

Amsterdam.pm organises informal meetings where Perl users can meet, and exchange information and experiences with regard to using Perl. The meetings are normally held every first Tuesday of the month. Although the preferred language for communication is Dutch, English will be spoken if necessary.

Our next meeting is Tuesday September 2nd 2003, from 20:00 till 22:00 at the office of XS4All, Eekholt 42, Diemen. Meetings are generally held on the first Tuesday of the month and are generally held at the office of Xs4all.

This meeting, Jouke will be giving a presentation about pVoice. liz may do something about the state of Perl threads.

There are directions to get there.

Should you want to join some of us for dinner, please gather between 17:45 and 18:15. At 18:15 sharp we'll leave for a restaurant somewhere nearby for dinner.

See our website for more details.

Dutch version follows:

Amsterdam.pm staat voor de "Amsterdamse Perl Mongers", een groep van gebruikers van Perl. In tegenstelling tot wat de naam suggereert is Amsterdam.pm niet beperkt tot alleen Amsterdam. Iedereen die gelegenheid heeft is welkom, ook al bent u al bij Alphen.pm, Haarlem.pm, Nijmegen.pm, Rotterdam.pm, Echt.pm of Wageningen.pm op bezoek geweest.

Amsterdam.pm organiseert informele bijeenkomsten waar Perl gebruikers kunnen samenkomen en informatie en gebruikservaringen met betrekking tot Perl kunnen uitwisselen. Deze bijeenkomsten vinden normaliter plaats op elke eerste dinsdag van de maand. De voertaal binnen Amsterdam.pm is in pricipe Nederlands, maar indien nodig zal Engels worden gebruikt, b.v. om te communiceren met niet-Nederlandssprekende aanwezigen.

De eerstvolgende bijeenkomst vindt plaats op dinsdag 2 september 2003 van 20:00 tot 22:00 uur op het kantoor van XS4All, Eekholt 42, Diemen.

Jouke zal een presentatie over pVoice doen. liz doet wellicht iets over de status van threads in Perl.

De routebeschrijving.

Liefhebbers van een etentje vooraf kunnen tussen 17:45 en 18:15 verzamelen. Om 18:15 (écht om 18:15!) zoeken we een restaurantje in de buurt om een hapje te eten.

Bezoek onze Web site voor meer details.

Liz

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Re: Amsterdam PM meetings
by liz (Monsignor) on Aug 26, 2003 at 10:50 UTC
    "Eén moment van onbedachtzaamheid kan maken dat men eeuwig schreit"1

    My apologies to Abigail-II, kudra and woolfy. I shouldn't have mentioned them. I hope they will come to the Perl Mongers meeting nonetheless to accept my personal apology.

    Liz

    1One lapse of attention can make one cry forever.

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      Maybe I shouldn't enter this thread, but I think I missed something. I fail to see why you're apologizing with kudra and the other monks mentioned in your node (except for Abigail-II, who explicitly said to be pissed by being cited). The thought "Hey, let's go to see those VIPs" never hit my head. I never thought about Abigail-II as a monkey in a cage to admire, but as a competent person, surely interesting to meet face-to-face, and not through the limits of the net. Why isn't that ok?
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        The reason that it wasn't ok, was that I didn't ask them beforehand whether it was ok to mention them. I didn't give them the option to not be mentioned. That was my wrong judgement in this.

        Liz

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        I don't want to ever meet Abigail-II, there are too many other intelligent and civil Perlmonks out there.
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        Putting on my other hats, I can completely understand Abigail-II's point (though maybe it was a *little* OTT...) I've been in the position before where I've been invited to an event, stated quite clearly that I *may* turn up and then received a fair amount of stick when I didn't / couldn't.

        Although you may not be a 'VIP-spotter', many other people are, often to the point of being scary! Being 'known' in a community can carry a certain degree of responsibility and create expectations, which Abigail-II may not be prepared to take on. As a perfomer, people often expect me to be 'always on', and can be disappointed by my (relatively) normal persona IRL. Sometimes, one needs a peer group rather than an audience.

        Cheers, Ben.

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      "Een moment van onbedachtzaamheid kan maken dat men eeuwig schreit" - is this a traditional dutch proverb, or is it a famous quote? Just being interested.
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        It actually is an "artistically licensed" quote from a book title by Hugo Brandt Corstius written under one of his many pseudonyms: Raoul Chapkis. The title of the book is "Zes dagen onbedachtzaamheid kan maken dat men eeuwig schreit" (1966).

        If you ask me now what it was all about, I don't remember anymore. But the title stuck in my mind since I've read it.

        Liz

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Re: Amsterdam PM meetings
by jacques (Priest) on Aug 26, 2003 at 09:03 UTC
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