in reply to Amsterdam PM meetings

"Eén moment van onbedachtzaamheid kan maken dat men eeuwig schreit"1

My apologies to Abigail-II, kudra and woolfy. I shouldn't have mentioned them. I hope they will come to the Perl Mongers meeting nonetheless to accept my personal apology.

Liz

1One lapse of attention can make one cry forever.

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Re: Re: Amsterdam PM meetings
by larsen (Parson) on Aug 26, 2003 at 11:07 UTC
    Maybe I shouldn't enter this thread, but I think I missed something. I fail to see why you're apologizing with kudra and the other monks mentioned in your node (except for Abigail-II, who explicitly said to be pissed by being cited). The thought "Hey, let's go to see those VIPs" never hit my head. I never thought about Abigail-II as a monkey in a cage to admire, but as a competent person, surely interesting to meet face-to-face, and not through the limits of the net. Why isn't that ok?
      The reason that it wasn't ok, was that I didn't ask them beforehand whether it was ok to mention them. I didn't give them the option to not be mentioned. That was my wrong judgement in this.

      Liz

      I don't want to ever meet Abigail-II, there are too many other intelligent and civil Perlmonks out there.
      Putting on my other hats, I can completely understand Abigail-II's point (though maybe it was a *little* OTT...) I've been in the position before where I've been invited to an event, stated quite clearly that I *may* turn up and then received a fair amount of stick when I didn't / couldn't.

      Although you may not be a 'VIP-spotter', many other people are, often to the point of being scary! Being 'known' in a community can carry a certain degree of responsibility and create expectations, which Abigail-II may not be prepared to take on. As a perfomer, people often expect me to be 'always on', and can be disappointed by my (relatively) normal persona IRL. Sometimes, one needs a peer group rather than an audience.

      Cheers, Ben.

O.T.: onbedachtzaamheid?
by fraktalisman (Hermit) on Aug 29, 2003 at 15:08 UTC
    "Een moment van onbedachtzaamheid kan maken dat men eeuwig schreit" - is this a traditional dutch proverb, or is it a famous quote? Just being interested.
      It actually is an "artistically licensed" quote from a book title by Hugo Brandt Corstius written under one of his many pseudonyms: Raoul Chapkis. The title of the book is "Zes dagen onbedachtzaamheid kan maken dat men eeuwig schreit" (1966).

      If you ask me now what it was all about, I don't remember anymore. But the title stuck in my mind since I've read it.

      Liz