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by arrow (Friar)
on Dec 20, 2002 at 00:33 UTC ( [id://221301]=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

My plea is similar to skx about Re:'s getting out of hand. Too many times I have viewed the replies for an item (especially in SoPW) and have consistently found one to three duplicate replies to a question. Now it's good that Monks are willing to help, but please take the time to read any replies made before you, because a duplicate answer is useless to everyone, and will most likely only make you look lazy and/or stupid (sorry for the harshness). Please consider this the next time you want to answer a Seeker of Perl Wisdom...

Update: Sorry. Too hasty in judgement and writing, bad view on subject, unknown facts...

Arrow
Just Another Perl Wannabe

Edited per author's request - dvergin 2002-12-20

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Re: Duplicate replies
by pfaut (Priest) on Dec 20, 2002 at 00:51 UTC

    If you took a close look at the timestamps on those replies, they were probably posted very close to each other. The fact that there were three nearly identical replies shows you that:

    1. There are a lot of people following this site that wish to answer questions for people
    2. Those people are looking at new posts frequently enough that several of them will see a new post at the same time
    3. Those people are very knowledgable about perl and the best practices for using perl or else they'd be coming up with different answers

    I think I would rather see three similar answers to a question than no reply at all (which is the likely result in a lot of other places like newsgroups).

    --- print map { my ($m)=1<<hex($_)&11?' ':''; $m.=substr('AHJPacehklnorstu',hex($_),1) } split //,'2fde0abe76c36c914586c';
Re: Duplicate replies
by Aristotle (Chancellor) on Dec 20, 2002 at 00:49 UTC

    Many of these happen when folks write their replies near simultaneously - either at a point where they haven't seen anyone else's reply yet, or at least not one mentioning the point they bring up.

    There doesn't seem to be much that can sensibly done about this - nor, however, does it really seem to be a problem.

    There has been discussion of this before at Possible first post syndrome remedy (including a pretty humourous spinoff by ignatz, which alone makes the thread worth a read).

    Update: see? This thread is a perfect demonstration of the effect. :)

    Makeshifts last the longest.

Re: Duplicate replies
by rozallin (Curate) on Dec 20, 2002 at 02:33 UTC
    I agree with Aristotle's point that this isn't really a problem. In fact, I can see an advantage in getting three similar answers; it's confirmation by second or third opinion that what is suggested is likely to be the most suitable solution to the problem.

    It's also highly unlikely that the duplicate replies match word for word, due to the different styles of answering questions monks employ. To illustrate, one monk might say "You'll need to use <this module> - see the docs"; another might say "You'll need to use <this module>" and follow it with a brief but useful paragraph of tips on implementing this. A further monk may just give a single link to a node that has already covered the question, with no explanation at all.

    All of these answers are correct, and I think the only person who has the ability to say whether or not an answer was helpful to them is the person who asked the question in the first place.

    -- Rozallin J. Thompson
    The Webmistress who doesn't hesitate to use strict;

Re: Duplicate replies
by shotgunefx (Parson) on Dec 20, 2002 at 02:18 UTC
    I don't think similar answers are useless. I think that especially in a language such as Perl where there are many ways to do the same task, that it's validating to a point when people agree on "the way" to do something.Obviously the conscenus is not always right but I'm willing to bet the majority is usually right at the Monastery.

    I'm also not inclined to write a post then while previewing, open up another window to make sure that someone else hasn't said what I've said before I've posted.

    -Lee

    "To be civilized is to deny one's nature."
Re: Duplicate replies
by ibanix (Hermit) on Dec 20, 2002 at 00:51 UTC
    Just two thoughts:

    * Different people often bring different ideas to the table
    * Sometimes we all rush to answer first :-)

    Cheers,
    ibanix

    $ echo '$0 & $0 &' > foo; chmod a+x foo; foo;
Re: Duplicate replies
by arrow (Friar) on Dec 20, 2002 at 04:44 UTC
    Sorry all, I guess I was a little hasty. And I do see that different ways of doing things is a part of Perl. The only thing I didn't think of was posting at the same (or nearly the same) time. Once again, sorry.

    arrow waves goodbye to all his XP...

    Just Another Perl Wannabe
      I didn't vote either way on your post. You've only been here for a month, and I know it can take longer than that to get comfortable with the site and its culture. It certainly took me some time. Your question was a bit naive maybe, but that comes with the territory. I didn't think it was a bad one per se - an opportunity to learn about the general view on things at the monastery, if nothing else.

      Makeshifts last the longest.

Re: Duplicate replies
by Ionizor (Pilgrim) on Dec 20, 2002 at 02:38 UTC
    You raise a good point but as mentioned above it has been addressed before. Also, I downvoted your node because harsh is okay when it's justified but I think you were overly harsh - duplicate answers are not always redundant and I don't believe that in and of themselves they make anyone look lazy or stupid - it's up to a monk to make h(im|er)self look stupid.

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