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Re^5: Your main event may be another's side-show.

by Anonymous Monk
on Oct 18, 2010 at 23:21 UTC ( [id://866068]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^4: Your main event may be another's side-show.
in thread Your main event may be another's side-show.

Teh question is: does starting people of with paint by numbers lead to the eventual creation of good artists?

Or simply lots of people who are expert at painting by numbers?

I don't think there is a definitive answer to that. It is a question that has raged in education circles for decades.

Whether it was 'The New Math' or 'Phonetic (developmental) Spelling' or a raft of other attempts to simplify the teaching process, they all rely upon the presumption that eventually, the 'proper' knowledge will take hold and supplant the teaching aid in the minds of those so educated.

But there is an old adage that it is far harder to unlearn your bad habits that it would have been to learn the right way to start with. And history shows that to be the case.

Another old adage is: those whom ignore history, are destined to repeat it.

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Re^6: Your main event may be another's side-show.
by Your Mother (Archbishop) on Oct 18, 2010 at 23:41 UTC

    Another you might add to your bag of holding: Un bon mot ne prouve rien.

      A cute saying does not make it so.

      So true. Maybe this is more convincing.

      Or even this:

      A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling

      For example, in Year 1 that useless letter c would be dropped to be replased either by k or s, and likewise x would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which c would be retained would be the ch formation, which will be dealt with later.

      Year 2 might reform w spelling, so that which and one would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish y replasing it with i and Iear 4 might fiks the g/j anomali wonse and for all.

      Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants.

      Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez c, y and x — bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez — tu riplais ch, sh, and th rispektivli.

      Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.

      Mark Twain

        As a total beside-the-point ... probably the most interesting computer project I ever did was one that I did for (believe it or not) the Poet-In-Residence at our University.   This gentleman was engaged in a study of spelling variations in the published texts of Shakesperean sonnets.   No, I was not one of the poor-schleps who had to type it all in.   (Those were the graduate students.)   Instead, I wrote the programs (in HP2000 Timeshare BASIC) that analyzed them.

        It was fairly remarkable, in those days, to be using the computer to process the data.   It was the first string-parser I ever wrote.   (And the first in a handful of times my name has been listed in the acknowledgements of a formal academic paper.)   I would have loved to have had Perl, and a computer powerful enough to have run it, but all that was still a gleam in Larry Wall’s eye.

        And, I tell you, it was quite fascinating.   There were no dictionaries; no standard spellings.   There wasn’t even a standard for how a particular letter sounded.   People wrote what they heard.   So, the texts became a record of “what they heard,” and thus, of how they spoke.   Much of the text was very much like the last sentence in Mark Twain’s essay.   As you see from the essay, you can’t “sight-read” text like that.   (This would one day be the gift from Noah Webster.)   But you can pronounce it, and when you do so, you hear a voice and a person from the very distant past, speaking.

        Our Poet-in-Residence, in addition to being pretty darned savvy about the potential for using the computer, truly was a scholar who could engage in fascinating conversation for many hours.   His depth of knowledge and passion for the subject was easy to see.

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